Content Management Systems: PostNuke, PHPNuke, etc

[ShadowLab]

Hello fellow HostPCers. I'd like to write my own simplified version of a Content Management System for my site, but in the mean time I want to have something functional with a fairly easy turn-key approach.

I've never used a CMS before, so I'd appreciate some feedback on something practical and easy to setup and use. I know many of you use or have used CMSes on your sites, so let the accolades and horror-stories fly.

[eugene]

I have used postnuke (http://www.postnuke.com/), phpnuke (http://phpnuke.org), and xoops (http://www.xoops.org/).
dBMasters (http://www.hostpc.com/forums/index.php?showuser=3) has also created his own CMS, Content Manager (http://scripts.dbmasters.net/index.php?n=42&id=4).
-Eugene

[Guest]

I'm using Movable Type, though its one:many author-to-audience ratio means it works quite a bit differently than something like PHPNuke.

[ShadowLab]

Originally posted by eugene@Dec 24 2003, 12:44 PM
I have used postnuke (http://www.postnuke.com/), phpnuke (http://phpnuke.org), and xoops (http://www.xoops.org/).
dBMasters (http://www.hostpc.com/forums/index.php?showuser=3) has also created his own CMS, Content Manager (http://scripts.dbmasters.net/index.php?n=42&id=4).
-Eugene
Any one of those that you'd suggest over another especially when it comes to installing on a HostPC DA account?

They all have great reviews for the most part, so I'm just looking for as little hassle as possible for those of you that have used these with a HostPC DA account.

Thanx

[eugene]

I prefer postnuke to phpnuke because you can assign permissions to groups. (phpnuke did not have groups permissions when I first began looking for a CMS. I am unsure of any recent developments in that regard.)
I have also had more experience with postnuke than with xoops, and have found many modules and written several as well. It appears that the postnuke developer community is much larger than that of xoops. On the other hand, I believe I found the xoops developer API to be cleaner than the postnuke one--I cannot be sure of this as it has been quite some time since I worked with them.
The choice comes down to a question of what you wish to do with the site. How many content editors, who will be adding to it, etc. If the site is to be run by one person, you, and you are looking for a CMS so that you can edit/add content with a consistent look-and-feel easily, then any of these options should work well. Try out Dan Ball's Content Manager or a Moveable Type-like solution. If, on the other hand, you require a site that will have many "webmasters" and users with different roles, then you may need to move to a postnuke or similar site.
-Eugene

[dbmasters]

Just FYI, the next version of my content manager (thanks for the mention eugene), due out the beginning of next year, sometime will have the ability to give different content admins different logins and roles and have quite a few new modules.

[ShadowLab]

Hey Dan have you released the newest version of your CMS yet?

If not, then do you have an expected release date and which version number will it be?

I'm planning to start work on my site very soon, so I'd like to check out your latest version if you think it's stable, but if you think it will be a while I'll just use your current one.

Thanks, Kevin.

[ShadowLab]

While searching endlessly for the right CMS to suit my temporary needs I came across two excellent sites that might help someone else in my position to narrow the playing field.

CMS Review: (http://biz-whiz.com/article225.html) This article breaks down various CMSes with a short overview of each and gives a comparison in a table displaying their: platform, PROS, and CONS.

OpenSourceCMS.com: (http://www.opensourcecms.com) This site is extremely excellent for taking the hands on approach. They actually let you log in as an admin into any of the huge laundry list of CMSes and get a real feel of how they compare without having to waste your time installing each one on your own server. "The administrator username and password is given for every system and each system is refreshed on the hour, every hour. This allows you to to add and delete content, change the way things look, basically be the admin of any system here with no fear of messing anything up."

[dbmasters]

Originally posted by ShadowLab@Jan 8 2004, 04:19 AM
Hey Dan have you released the newest version of your CMS yet?

If not, then do you have an expected release date and which version number will it be?

I'm planning to start work on my site very soon, so I'd like to check out your latest version if you think it's stable, but if you think it will be a while I'll just use your current one.

Thanks, Kevin.
No, v4 is still in development, and I have no real firm ETA on release, hopefully by spring. Kinda depends, currently I am so busy with other work I haven't found much time to do other stuff...and I am trying to cram as many improvements into it as possible...which presents tons of new bugs...

[Joe]

Right now, I'm trying to work on a ZOPE server, which is all Python - but it ROCKS! I'm planning on using it for a govt intranet we're designing... so far, so good! :)

[dbmasters]

Joey, if you need any help with Zope, as I recall your new Hungarian client has experience with it from a project he was on a coupl eyears ago...I am pretty sure that is what he used...my memory might be failing tho...

[eugene]

Originally posted by Joe@Jan 8 2004, 09:38 AM
Right now, I'm trying to work on a ZOPE server, which is all Python - but it ROCKS! I'm planning on using it for a govt intranet we're designing... so far, so good! :)
mmm. Python! Woo Hoo!

[eugene]

Well after years of playing with the nukes, I've finally switched to a different CMS for one of my sites. I mention it here because it was not in my earlier lists.
Mambo!
http://www.mamboserver.com/templates/mos/images/site_logo.png (http://www.mamboserver.com/)
http://www.mamboserver.com/


Interestingly, the February edition of Linux Magazine (http://www.linux-magazine.com/) has published a review of Mambo Open Source 4.5.

Download (http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/39/Mambo_Open_Source_45.pdf) and read the full review in PDF format.

http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/39/LinuxMagazineCover_XXL.jpg (http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/39)

-Eugene

[dbmasters]

Oh, and FYI, Joe and a couple other friends are doing some alpha testing of my CMS, version 4. It's looking really good so far.

There is a news posting about it's new features and stuff at http://scripts.dbmasters.net/ if anyone is interested.

[krAnk]

Originally posted by dbmasters@Jan 8 2004, 11:46 AM
Joey, if you need any help with Zope, as I recall your new Hungarian client has experience with it from a project he was on a coupl eyears ago...I am pretty sure that is what he used...my memory might be failing tho...
Your memory is excellent, Dan fella :)

To tell the truth, Zope has gone over a big evolution process during the past years as it is now based on less or more other concepts than before. I mean I don't really used CMF and TAL or whatever is the name of that XML-based scripting thing of it, however Zope definitely worths considering when it comes to the point of building a site with complex logic.

I found Python a good language and was also surprised when recognizing Microsoft also likes it since it has something to do with Windows Scripting. :)

For inexpensive Zope developers, just drop me a line and I may reach some of the guys who I worked with when playing with Zope.

kr/\nk

[dbmasters]

ah, krAnk, buddy, good to see you at HostPC :)

[krAnk]

Originally posted by dbmasters@Jan 19 2004, 05:11 AM
ah, krAnk, buddy, good to see you at HostPC :)
Oh, I just thought you need a smart and strong, good-looking guy here :-)

[dbmasters]

yeah, do you know one? :lol:

[krAnk]

Originally posted by dbmasters@Jan 19 2004, 02:44 PM
yeah, do you know one? :lol:
Not my opinion but of dozens of girls, you know... :rolleyes: